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SethVandenberg Says:

May 26, 2012 - I wish Alex would shut the fuck up and let this fellow explain what is going on. However, if the Government has access to all legitimate documents, Passports, visas even the ability to print money. WHY photoshop some BS document ? Get a real BC, utilize 1960's fonts and put forth a BC that is unquestionable and beyond doubt ? Lets see, maybe he [ Obama ] and the government know there isn't one single fucking thing anybody can do about it.

jrowarrior Says:

May 26, 2012 - Obama is an anti christ regardless if this is true or not. He may even be THE antichrist. Any piece of shit who supports gay marriage is anti pro creation, antiChrist, anti truth PERIOD! This nation will be judged very soon seeing nobody cares. You will all care very soon. Get ready! Repent now and love the King Yeshua Hamashiach!

spruceaspen Says:

May 25, 2012 - Ran out of space...Wanted to mention I've got 20 years Photoshop experience. It's hard to know everything so could be the video is a best attempt at understanding something that seemed awry.

spruceaspen Says:

May 25, 2012 - Not true thumper. I could replicate the selections in photoshop, magic wand tolerance set to 0. Save as .psd, Open in .ai save as .pdf with out preserving editing gives same layer style when reopened in .ai. I'm even more convinced that anomalies are accounted for by low res. text, + removing bkgnd for combining tamper-proof green with the current date info. Typewriter text not kerned. 5 char. = 3/8". Exceptions=speed + fixes. Video is only proof of calling-wolf. Be careful fellow countrymen.

platinumian Says:

May 25, 2012 - all we can do is disagree with one another on this. i believe you are wrong and he has been in their database. and why would they make up a person when they can use one of the many many many people already here?lol? plus everybody that i know that voted (with the exception of a few) voted for obama and on top of that imagine what america would be with another republican for president? i shutter at the thought. if you know your history bush reagan and bush all bent us over and raped us blind.

thumper88888 Says:

May 25, 2012 - I am also waiting to see a real birth certificate. If there is one which says what he (now) says it does, it should be easy to get a copy. There are phones and postal services in Kenya.

thumper88888 Says:

May 25, 2012 - It might help to see a real one to compare . I don't use PS . I use gimp and adobe which is the proper program to view a pdf. Then, the alterations are quite unmistakable. I don't know of any ( image )software that separates an existing image into layers except for editing (when asked to do so) . Doing this automatically would lead me to correct it's settings or uninstall the software .

thumper88888 Says:

May 25, 2012 - I can't tell if you tried to respond to my comment, but I did not mention a pamphlet , relatives nor CIA.. I only know what I wrote . As of last week, all these facts were available on the web including videos and newspaper reports from here (USA) and Kenya. As for a birth certificate, he has had decades to have one forged and planted in various records but the most recent one I saw on his website is so obviously a fabrication, he asked that it not be allowed in evidence in his ballot hearing

thumper88888 Says:

May 25, 2012 - He was not in the Hawaii database nor birth records a few years ago. He surely is by now. Printed certificates (copies ) are abstracted , printed and then optionally certified by seal. This alleged copy cannot reflect an original (cannot be a photocopy ) . Such an image would be flat (no layers) If it were converted to a pdf the only layers would be different colors or different information (alterations)

Operator0090 Says:

May 25, 2012 - The CORRECT question is why another Hawian birth certificate isnt compared to it side by side. Are you telling me photoshop doesn't layer any picture automatically based on grey scale variations? Because if it does your entire argument falls to shit.

Operator0090 Says:

May 25, 2012 - I don't suppose you have actual proof and not what you heard from your cousin's friend's broth-in-law's sister told you because she her boyfriend works for the CIA? All you have in conjecture and illogical reasoning. So let me repeat; Because a pamphlet that includes your biography says you were born in a certain place, does not make it true. A birth certificate does. Try to understand. In order to have an effective conclusion, it must be built of solid premises.

thumper88888 Says:

May 25, 2012 - Several in his family including Barry himself ( not only in his bio ) stated he was born in Kenya (Mombasa) . He actually boasted about being an alien who got elected by Illinoisans. He swore to the same fact at Occidental college ( the program he was in was unavailable to American citizens ) I don't think he 'evolved' to natural status until the 2007 campaign.

thumper88888 Says:

May 24, 2012 - If you mean this document, printed on paper, all you could tell is that it is void for alterations. Seeing the original document would be really interesting, because if the information matches, the question would be, " why doctor a form only to match the original.?" The answer could only be that it doesn't match ( this one has no original counterpart - it was fabricated from parts of some other original)

thumper88888 Says:

May 24, 2012 - The different types, as in the dates, are understandable but the fact that signatures and different parts of the dates are on different layers is possible only if edited as a pdf. If scanned, all the original information is on one layer. The security pattern might have been added, but I can see without my glasses that it was extended out beyond the form itself for no valid reason.( It does appear to have been bed-scanned with the pattern already present, but with different data on it)

platinumian Says:

May 24, 2012 - just realized this: he is in the hawaii birth database right? (yes, he is.

jasonlbutler Says:

May 24, 2012 - But thats what I'm talking about. Taking an original document and making just 1 copy is technically TAMPERING with that document. When have you ever put a document on a scanner and the printed out product comes out exactly the same? How many times has this document been scanned or copied before it was posted online where people downloaded and printed it? Thats why the whole "layer" thing has no weight. There are a bunch of websites that show (technically) what I'm talking about.

Operator0090 Says:

May 24, 2012 - So your saying that if I don't put a document in photoshop it won't give me layers based on greyscale? Or are you just saying you're just 'half' racist?

Operator0090 Says:

May 24, 2012 - But by all means put your faith in this guy in the video, who believes the cia tapes his phone conversations.

Operator0090 Says:

May 24, 2012 - Obama never said he was born in Kenya. If I were to print a pamphlet on you being a pedophile, would it make it true? On the contrary, he gave you two documents that prove his claims. Which every media source either confirms or implicitly claims its fraud. They won't even tell you, they just imply it. You, on the other hand, give me a pamphlet that looks like it was printed on a blue test booklet.

AmericaLoudNClear Says:

May 24, 2012 - Obama put out a bio in 1991, it said that he was 'born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. She is right, you are calling our pres a Liar

Operator0090 Says:

May 24, 2012 - Your logic is so biased it borders on the inhumane. You can't be this stupid can you?

TimRobles89 Says:

May 24, 2012 - You are half right. The judging a downloaded file does not necessarily reflect on the physical document. However this is to show that the Downloadable image has been tampered with. With basic reasoning, what conclusions can you fairly make if a tampered document is released to the public? A fair conclusion is that the real document is being hidden.

justmegarry Says:

May 24, 2012 - u r nuts dude.

platinumian Says:

May 24, 2012 - actually stupid, he is right in a way. yeah idiot technically you can analyze it. but in actuallity you would have to see the paper document too, retard. it is ok to have opinions asshole. just dont be a dick.

platinumian Says:

May 24, 2012 - hmm... i did mine and it broke apart... does that mean mine is fake? i think this is a bit out of their ass. do your own you will see i think the thicker ink is seperated due to shitty printers but then again who knows maybe my mom has been lying to me>? maybe my whiteass is from kenya too! lol nah this is bs i like infowars but come on.